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Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

RAYE

Tue Jun 11 2024
music industrysongwritingmusical influencesvulnerability in musicindependent music releasechallenges in the industrypersonal journeyartist's new singleupcoming album

Description

This episode features insights from Ray, a British pop singer-songwriter, about her journey through the music industry. She values honesty and openness in her performances and released her debut album independently. The episode also covers the speaker's experiences with songwriting, musical influences, and challenges faced in the industry. The importance of vulnerability and honesty in creating music that deeply connects with listeners is emphasized. The episode concludes with discussions about the artist's new single and upcoming album.

Insights

Successful people may not always consider themselves business savvy

Ray, a British pop singer-songwriter, had a tumultuous journey through the music industry

Ray's vulnerability and honesty in her music resonates deeply with fans

Ray values honesty and openness in her performances to connect with the audience

Ray's debut album was independently released after facing roadblocks with her previous label

The speaker started as a songwriter at the age of 14 and quickly learned about songwriting formulas like accessibility, repetition, symmetry, and the importance of sculpting melodies.

They gained skills by working with pop-rock songwriters in Sweden and realized the need for persistence and adaptability in songwriting.

The transition from pure expression to commercial success in the music industry involved learning to please others and navigate false promises from labels.

After being signed at a young age, they realized the challenges of the industry and the importance of understanding contractual clauses like a key man clause.

Early stages of their career were focused on playing ball with decision-makers but their goal has always been to be an album artist.

The debut album started coming together about four or five years ago with some songs having been around for a while before being finalized.

The speaker had a life-changing experience in New Orleans at the Preservation Jazz Hall, which influenced their love for music and songwriting.

The speaker's childhood road trip across America exposed them to various music genres and deep, moving stories through blues music.

The speaker was inspired by albums like 'The Diary of Alicia Keys' and 'Who is Jill Scott?' during their childhood, which had a significant impact on them.

There is a blend of jazz club atmosphere and vulnerability in the speaker's album, creating a unique listening experience.

The speaker appreciates the authenticity and unpredictability in artists like Jill Scott, admiring their style of singing and performing.

The speaker's musical influences include Drake, The Weeknd, and other artists from a young age.

The speaker's family has a history of music involvement, with relatives who wrote songs and sang in church choirs.

The speaker's early exposure to music and desire to write songs stemmed from family influences.

Gospel music played a significant role in the speaker's upbringing, with exposure to artists like Kurt Franklin and Donnie McClurkin.

The speaker faced challenges and pressure related to producing a dance album under constraints set by their record label.

The speaker reached a breaking point after feeling unfairly treated in the music industry despite years of effort to prove themselves as a musician.

The decision to send out a tweet expressing frustration with the music industry was spontaneous and without strategic planning.

The speaker's tweet led to them being released from their contract, allowing them to put out their album independently.

The success of the song 'Escapism' on TikTok brought unexpected attention and changed the narrative for the speaker in the UK music scene.

The song 'Escapism' was written during a road trip in Utah, where the speaker had a challenging skiing experience.

The speaker faced a challenging skiing experience and took time to write songs during a seven-day retreat, focusing on titles as song starters.

The producer of the album displayed eccentric behavior during the writing process in a log cabin with beautiful views.

There was discussion about environmental concerns and societal issues, including a reference to Boris Johnson's alleged drug use.

The speaker emphasized the importance of addressing unfairness and societal issues through music.

The conversation touched on the unique sound production in the songs, including harmonizing voices and mixing first and third person perspectives.

The speaker struggled with intense cycles and unhealthy habits while portraying a different persona publicly.

They felt distant from their family and lost, but eventually became more open with them.

The speaker chose to be an open book as an artist, despite the challenges it brings.

Vulnerability and honesty are crucial in creating music that deeply connects with listeners.

The song 'Ice Cream Man' was difficult to record but had a profound impact on a listener who found healing through it.

The artist feels safe and powerful expressing vulnerability through music, which allows for honesty and comfort in sharing personal lyrics.

The new single 'Genesis' is divided into three parts, each representing different emotional themes and musical styles.

The artist aimed to create a song that guides listeners through processing tough emotions towards positivity and hope.

Collaboration with producer Darkchild involved meticulous work on the song's production details over a long period of time.

Discussion about making changes to a song before its release, including adding new elements like strings and brass.

The importance of creating music that stands the test of time and working with talented singers like Janet Jackson and Toni Braxton.

The artist's approach to creating a new album, emphasizing the need to live more to gather stories and ensure high quality.

Acknowledgment of challenges in the current music industry with short attention spans, but commitment to releasing only music that meets personal standards.

Excitement for the upcoming album and dedication to producing work that is better than previous releases.

Chapters

  1. Key Insights
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Transcript

Key Insights

00:06 - 56:42

  • Successful people may not always consider themselves business savvy
  • Ray, a British pop singer-songwriter, had a tumultuous journey through the music industry
  • Ray's vulnerability and honesty in her music resonates deeply with fans
  • Ray values honesty and openness in her performances to connect with the audience
  • Ray's debut album was independently released after facing roadblocks with her previous label
  • The speaker started as a songwriter at the age of 14 and quickly learned about songwriting formulas like accessibility, repetition, symmetry, and the importance of sculpting melodies.
  • They gained skills by working with pop-rock songwriters in Sweden and realized the need for persistence and adaptability in songwriting.
  • The transition from pure expression to commercial success in the music industry involved learning to please others and navigate false promises from labels.
  • After being signed at a young age, they realized the challenges of the industry and the importance of understanding contractual clauses like a key man clause.
  • Early stages of their career were focused on playing ball with decision-makers but their goal has always been to be an album artist.
  • The debut album started coming together about four or five years ago with some songs having been around for a while before being finalized.
  • The speaker had a life-changing experience in New Orleans at the Preservation Jazz Hall, which influenced their love for music and songwriting.
  • The speaker's childhood road trip across America exposed them to various music genres and deep, moving stories through blues music.
  • The speaker was inspired by albums like 'The Diary of Alicia Keys' and 'Who is Jill Scott?' during their childhood, which had a significant impact on them.
  • There is a blend of jazz club atmosphere and vulnerability in the speaker's album, creating a unique listening experience.
  • The speaker appreciates the authenticity and unpredictability in artists like Jill Scott, admiring their style of singing and performing.
  • The speaker's musical influences include Drake, The Weeknd, and other artists from a young age.
  • The speaker's family has a history of music involvement, with relatives who wrote songs and sang in church choirs.
  • The speaker's early exposure to music and desire to write songs stemmed from family influences.
  • Gospel music played a significant role in the speaker's upbringing, with exposure to artists like Kurt Franklin and Donnie McClurkin.
  • The speaker faced challenges and pressure related to producing a dance album under constraints set by their record label.
  • The speaker reached a breaking point after feeling unfairly treated in the music industry despite years of effort to prove themselves as a musician.
  • The decision to send out a tweet expressing frustration with the music industry was spontaneous and without strategic planning.
  • The speaker's tweet led to them being released from their contract, allowing them to put out their album independently.
  • The success of the song 'Escapism' on TikTok brought unexpected attention and changed the narrative for the speaker in the UK music scene.
  • The song 'Escapism' was written during a road trip in Utah, where the speaker had a challenging skiing experience.
  • The speaker faced a challenging skiing experience and took time to write songs during a seven-day retreat, focusing on titles as song starters.
  • The producer of the album displayed eccentric behavior during the writing process in a log cabin with beautiful views.
  • There was discussion about environmental concerns and societal issues, including a reference to Boris Johnson's alleged drug use.
  • The speaker emphasized the importance of addressing unfairness and societal issues through music.
  • The conversation touched on the unique sound production in the songs, including harmonizing voices and mixing first and third person perspectives.
  • The speaker struggled with intense cycles and unhealthy habits while portraying a different persona publicly.
  • They felt distant from their family and lost, but eventually became more open with them.
  • The speaker chose to be an open book as an artist, despite the challenges it brings.
  • Vulnerability and honesty are crucial in creating music that deeply connects with listeners.
  • The song 'Ice Cream Man' was difficult to record but had a profound impact on a listener who found healing through it.
  • The artist feels safe and powerful expressing vulnerability through music, which allows for honesty and comfort in sharing personal lyrics.
  • The new single 'Genesis' is divided into three parts, each representing different emotional themes and musical styles.
  • The artist aimed to create a song that guides listeners through processing tough emotions towards positivity and hope.
  • Collaboration with producer Darkchild involved meticulous work on the song's production details over a long period of time.
  • Discussion about making changes to a song before its release, including adding new elements like strings and brass.
  • The importance of creating music that stands the test of time and working with talented singers like Janet Jackson and Toni Braxton.
  • The artist's approach to creating a new album, emphasizing the need to live more to gather stories and ensure high quality.
  • Acknowledgment of challenges in the current music industry with short attention spans, but commitment to releasing only music that meets personal standards.
  • Excitement for the upcoming album and dedication to producing work that is better than previous releases.
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