The Ezra Klein Show

The Ezra Klein Show

Each Tuesday and Friday, Ezra Klein invites you into a conversation on something that matters. How do we address climate change if the political system fails to act? Has the logic of markets infiltrated too many aspects of our lives? What is the future of the Republican Party? What do psychedelics teach us about consciousness? What does sci-fi understand about our present that we miss? Can our food system be just to humans and animals alike? Listen to this podcast in New York Times Audio, our iOS app for news subscribers. Download now at

The Ezra Klein Show

Fri Jun 07 2024

The Economic Theory That Explains Why Americans Are So Mad

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This episode explores the mismatch between consumer sentiment and economic reality, the challenges of affordability in housing, healthcare, and education, the impact of student loan debt and changing economic trends, the complexities of inflation and borrowing costs, the housing market crisis and perceptions of inflation, the relationship between price increases, consumer sentiment, and spending habits, the rising prices, labor costs, and consumer behavior, the influence of economic perceptions on election outcomes, the role of economic messaging in voter perception, Biden's economic messaging and policy proposals, the balance between affordability, labor costs, and national security concerns, the challenges in economic policies and voter sentiment, and insights from books mentioned.

The Ezra Klein Show

Tue Jun 04 2024

The Republican Party’s Decay Began Long Before Trump

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This episode explores the rise of Donald Trump within the Republican Party, the evolution of the party's ideology, internal conflicts, and the impact of nomination procedures on American democracy. It also delves into the challenges faced by both the Republican and Democratic parties in selecting candidates and the historical context of citizenship in America.

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Fri May 31 2024

Your Mind Is Being Fracked

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This episode explores the concept of attention from historical, psychological, religious, and societal perspectives. It discusses the manipulation of attention in the digital age, the connection between attention and advertising, and the need for attention activism. The episode also examines critiques of attention in public spaces, the impact of technology on attention, and the importance of non-coercive education. It expands the discourse to include art, music, aesthetics, and the School of Attention. The episode concludes with insights on deep listening, creating spaces for activated experiences, and book recommendations.

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Fri May 24 2024

‘Artificial Intelligence?’ No, Collective Intelligence.

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This podcast explores the intersection of AI technology and art, focusing on music generation and artistic expression. It delves into the work of artist Holly Herndon, who uses AI to create weirder and more personal art. The podcast also discusses the challenges and implications of using AI voice models in music creation, as well as the importance of human relationships and collaboration in AI art. It explores topics such as data control, ownership, and economic models in the digital age, and the impact of AI on artistic expression and media consumption. The podcast concludes with insights on creating weird and unique AI art and a discussion on a science fiction story and collaborative technology.

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Tue May 21 2024

A Conservative Futurist and a Supply-Side Liberal Walk Into a Podcast …

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The podcast discusses the disconnect between the futuristic vision of 'The Jetsons' and the actual progress towards that future. It explores the impact of environmental legislation on economic growth, the challenges faced by the nuclear power industry, the role of aesthetics in shaping the future, government funding for innovation, bureaucracy in research and development, technological advancements, the intersection of AI and sustainability, and the balancing of regulation and innovation.

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Fri May 17 2024

The Disastrous Relationship Between Israel, Palestinians and the U.N.

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This episode explores the role of international law in conflict resolution, focusing on the Israel-Palestine conflict. It discusses the power dynamics and influence of great powers like Russia and the US, the establishment of Israel through international law, the ongoing concerns surrounding Palestine, and the complexities of targeting military objectives while protecting civilians. The episode also touches on other conflicts like the Yugoslav conflict and Russia's actions in Ukraine, highlighting challenges to the effectiveness of the international legal system. Overall, it examines how international law shapes and impacts conflicts around the world.

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Fri May 10 2024

This Is a Very Weird Moment in the History of Drug Laws

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The episode explores Oregon's groundbreaking drug policy reform, the challenges it faces, and the evolving perceptions of drug use. It delves into the complexities of addiction treatment, the impact of genetics and individual differences, and the challenges in the legal cannabis market. The episode also discusses the need for a balanced approach to drug policies and highlights key insights from the discussions.

The Ezra Klein Show

Tue May 07 2024

Watching the Protests From Israel


Campus protests over Israel and Gaza, the complexities of Zionism and Israeli politics, Israeli fears, trauma, and settlements, global implications and a call for courageous action, trauma, strategies, and hope for peace, emotional issues and missed opportunities, leadership challenges and security risks, combating extremism and building coalitions, scientific heroism and hope for leadership

The Ezra Klein Show

Tue Apr 30 2024

Is Green Growth Possible?

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The podcast discusses the challenge of living prosperous lives while staying within environmental limits. It explores the relationship between economic growth and air pollution, the impacts of climate change, solutions for reducing emissions, deforestation and biodiversity loss, food systems' contribution to climate change, and the role of technological advancements and political realism in addressing climate change effectively.

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Fri Apr 26 2024

Salman Rushdie Is Not Who You Think He Is

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Salman Rushdie's life, work, and the controversy surrounding his novel 'Satanic Verses' are explored in this episode. The impact of social media and shame in public life, as well as the recovery and continued challenges faced by a writer after an attack, are also discussed. The episode delves into understanding the mindset of an attacker and features reflections on an intense personal journey. Literary masters and book recommendations are shared, concluding with acknowledgments to the production team.

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