The Lunar Society

The Lunar Society

I interview scientists, historians, economists, & intellectuals. I ask really good questions. YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/DwarkeshPatel Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3oBack9 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3S5g2YK www.dwarkeshpatel.com

The Lunar Society

Thu Aug 17 2023

George Hotz vs Eliezer Yudkowsky AI Safety Debate

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This episode features a debate on AI safety and related topics, including rationality's impact on people's lives, fictional and real-world stories, Moore's law, and the concept of staring into the singularity. The importance of timing in predicting AI advancements is discussed, along with examples like AlphaFold solving the protein folding problem. The potential threats and benefits of superintelligence are explored, as well as the blurring line between humanity and machines. The impact of AI on society, resource consumption, and cooperation is examined. The differences between humans and AI in terms of intelligence and decision-making are highlighted. The challenges of AI alignment and potential doom scenarios are considered. The episode concludes with discussions on complexity theory, biology's constraints, and the possibility of building a Dyson Sphere. The importance of cooperation between AIs and humanity is emphasized.

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Tue Aug 08 2023

Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO) - $10 Billion Models, OpenAI, Scaling, & AGI in 2 years

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This episode explores the scaling of AI models, the challenges and implications of scaling, the development of AI systems, the capabilities and limitations of models, security concerns in AI development, governance in AGI development, cybersecurity, consciousness in AI models, and the personal perspective of the CEO.

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Wed Jul 12 2023

Andy Matuschak - Self-Teaching, Spaced Repetition, & Why Books Don’t Work

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This episode explores the role of memory in learning, different approaches in educational psychology, effective learning strategies, and the challenges in the education system. It also delves into the connection between memory and knowledge compilation, cognitive processes, and various learning techniques. The episode discusses the impact of hypertext on writing practices, crowdfunding research projects, and decision-making processes at Apple. Additionally, it explores the design process, cognitive processes, and the use of space repetition in learning.

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Mon Jun 26 2023

Carl Shulman (Pt 2) - AI Takeover, Bio & Cyber Attacks, Detecting Deception, & Humanity's Far Future

  • AI producing bio-weapons could lead to mutually assured destruction
  • If AI is able to disempower alignment and oversight, it could design a bio-weapon or hack cryptocurrencies or bank accounts...

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Wed Jun 14 2023

Carl Shulman - Intelligence Explosion, Primate Evolution, Robot Doublings, & Alignment

  • Human-level AI is deep into an intelligence explosion.
  • The race is between getting strong interpretability and shaping motivations, and the AIs taking over in ways that are not perceived.
  • It seemed implausible that we couldn't do better than completely brute force evolution.
  • The podcast is split into two parts: one about Carl's model of an intelligence explosion and its implications for alignment, and the other about the economics of AI.

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Tue May 23 2023

Richard Rhodes - Making of Atomic Bomb, AI, WW2, Oppenheimer, & Abolishing Nukes

  • The development of the atomic bomb may have been inevitable even without World War II due to the discovery of nuclear fission in Nazi Germany.
  • Physicists realized that a small amount of energy could lead to a massive response through nuclear fusion, which led to the development of the bomb.
  • Scientists did not have to invent anything new to discover nuclear fission, and Niels Bohr had the right model for understanding the uranium atom.
  • The nucleus of a...

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Thu Apr 06 2023

Eliezer Yudkowsky - Why AI Will Kill Us, Aligning LLMs, Nature of Intelligence, SciFi, & Rationality

  • The speaker, Eliezer Yudkowski, wrote an article calling for a moratorium on further AI training runs.
  • They were surprised to find that normal people were more willing to entertain the idea.
  • Concerns exist about the speed at which technology is advancing and the potential negative outcomes that may result.
  • The development of GPT-5 is uncertain, and it is unclear what impact it will have on society.
  • Training algorithms continue to improve, e...

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Mon Mar 27 2023

Ilya Sutskever (OpenAI Chief Scientist) - Building AGI, Alignment, Future Models, Spies, Microsoft, Taiwan, & Enlightenment

  • The difficulty of aligning models smarter than humans is not to be underestimated.
  • AGI can help people become more enlightened and see the world more correctly.
  • Next token prediction may not surpass human performance.
  • Elia Sootzkover, co-founder and chief scientist of OpenAI, has made multiple breakthroughs in his field through hard work and dedication.
  • It is possible that foreign governments are using GPT for illicit purposes, but it may be difficult to track at sc...

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Wed Mar 22 2023

Nat Friedman - Reading Ancient Scrolls, Open Source, & AI

  • There are over 600 tax scrolls from ancient times that cannot be opened, but new techniques may allow them to be read.
  • Thousands of papyrus scrolls were preserved by the volcanic eruption of Vesuvius in AD 79 in the ruins of Herculaneum.
  • The score prize, also known as the Vesuvius Challenge, was founded by Nat Friedman to uncover new information from the papyrus scrolls.
  • Professor Brent Seals at the University of Kentucky ha...

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Mon Mar 13 2023

Brett Harrison - FTX US Former President & HFT Veteran Speaks Out

  • Illiquid or difficult to access markets can result in price discrepancies, which firms like Jane Street aim to arbitrage over time.
  • Different trading firms establish niches in specific areas and use varying strategies to make money.
  • There are famous hacks and tricks used in finance, such as preloading TCP/IP messages to reduce latency when trading.
  • The goal of technology in fields like video games and quantitative finance is to produce something that looks g...
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