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How to Discover Crypto's Next Narrative Using Onchain Activity | Icebergy
Tue Jun 20 2023
Crypto Investing
00:01 - 05:44
- Icebergy, a dev angel investor focused on crypto, created a whale bot on Telegram to survive the bear market.
- Icebergy focuses on chains and new projects since DeFi Summer happened.
- Watching wallets and tracking bots are effective ways of monitoring on-chain activity.
- Investing in a product after experiencing and using different chains or products is helpful.
- Most of the useful stuff on Jane is trading tools, lending, and borrowing.
- Solana has strong metrics but got delisted from Robinhood and other apps.
- Crypto offers a bigger edge than traditional markets due to network and people met.
- Crypto research can be done more efficiently through telegram chats and discord channels.
- Outperforming ETH or Bitcoin is the main goal in investing.
- Lending and borrowing allows for higher risk, higher reward on smaller cap potential plays while still having performance of ETH and Bitcoin as underlying portfolio.
- Holding cash stables is important to have something on the sideline to buy a dip or when there's a peg issue.
- Higher interest rates and less liquidity may change how you think about opportunity cost and where space can go, but it's overblown.
- If prices aren't higher in a year or so, it's wasting time.
- The impact of TGA on some coins is overblown.
- Survival is key in the crypto space.
- 30% cash, 30% stables, 20-25% Bitcoin, and 10-20% speculative plays is a good allocation strategy for survival.
DeFi and Tokens
05:17 - 11:18
- DeFi is useful for trading on-chain and borrowing against assets that you already own.
- DeFi tokens are hit or miss, even if they're super useful protocols.
- Tokens need to become monopolies on-chain and dominate their segment to perform well.
- It's hard to want to buy DeFi tokens when you can earn a high yield by staking ether.
- Airdrop farming is profitable to do, but using new products helps you see what's actually useful.
- Most of the stuff on Jane that's useful is just trading tools lending and borrowing.
On-Chain Activity and Narratives
10:48 - 16:59
- Watching wallets and tagging your own wallets on Etherscan or other apps to track bots and snipers trading on Jane.
- The whole meme coin has changed the way things have been moved.
- Narratives are too insane, most of the time it's just price leading.
- Enduring narratives persist as actual products that can be used.
- Most of the useful stuff on Jane is trading tools, lending and borrowing.
Investing Strategies
16:35 - 22:51
- Investing style has changed since the ICO craze and buying Bitcoin in early days.
- Holding cash stables is important to have something on the sideline to buy a dip or when there's a peg issue.
- One or two narratives can gain more interest and attention in an enduring bull market.
- Higher interest rates and less liquidity may change how you think about opportunity cost and where space can go, but it's overblown.
- If prices aren't higher in a year or so, it's wasting time.
- The impact of TGA on some coins is overblown.
- Survival is key in the crypto space.
- 30% cash, 30% stables, 20-25% Bitcoin, and 10-20% speculative plays is a good allocation strategy for survival.
NFTs and Social Media
33:42 - 39:57
- NFTs are not considered part of the investing portfolio bracket but rather a separate bucket for collectibles.
- NFTs are seen as fun investments that keep one busy, but the best ones bought were cheap and did not have much value.
- NFTs will come back, but they are currently experiencing a drought similar to ERC 20s in 2018.
- Social media apps like Workcaster and Lens are useful, but it's difficult to get people to log in and use them.
- The introduction of value through tokens may tamper with the genuine aspect of engaging and communicating on social media platforms.
- Creator coins like Big Cloud's model may be interesting for some, but others may not want to have a token or see it going wrong.
- It's important to be careful when introducing tokens as it can go very wrong and kill a platform.
- Creating an app that automatically posts tweets on Lens by default could help insert the platform into users' flow.
- The changing algorithm on Twitter has made engagement difficult.
Crypto Market and Regulation
51:00 - 57:30
- DeFi summer and bull market may return after regulatory clarity
- Design space for tokens has been hampered by regulatory uncertainty
- Teams are hesitant to drop a token due to regulatory risk despite the market being solved
- Tokens are necessary to coordinate activity, decentralize, and compensate people
- Regulatory clarity will allow clear framework for designing tokens without navigating uncertainty
- XRP case outcome is encouraging with courts interpreting it well and guidance coming out in Europe and UK
- Capital on the sidelines due to regulatory overhang may not be as much as thought but some big VC funds were not able to allocate all their capital in crypto
- Regulatory overhang has turned away people from thinking about crypto and NFTs but brands like LVMH and Nike are legitimizing the space at a minimum
Crypto Infrastructure and Social Media
45:04 - 51:27
- Optimistic rollups have a big lead in terms of people building on them and users being comfortable with them.
- Coinbase's role will be interesting to see, as they may direct people towards certain chains.
- ZK roll-ups may be more efficient and cheaper to use, but it comes down to which chain provides a better user experience.
- Meme coins are popular due to the liquidity and attention they receive on certain chains.
- NFTs haven't taken off on other chains because OpenSea wasn't deployed there and that's where all the attention was.
- The most misunderstood thing is meme coins, which have changed significantly in the last few months.
- It's been two years since we've seen a bull market in DeFi. It remains unclear what could revitalize it.
Crypto Investing and Social Media
57:06 - 1:03:15
- Cryptocurrency legitimizes and credentializes the industry, but there is still a lot of room to meet promises with actual product.
- Producing high-quality games in the crypto space can take time.
- Social media apps need a reason for users to open them once a day or once a week.
- There may be opportunities in forgotten aspects of crypto, such as ideas from past hype cycles.
- Revisiting past bullish ideas that didn't work could lead to killer use cases due to changes in infrastructure and environment.
- Layer two has opened up more computational possibilities and design space, but bugs are still an issue.
- "The best investments that he'd made was not the first iteration, but the second iteration, the second best idea." - Kobe or someone else
Crypto Market and Regulation
1:13:35 - 1:19:33
- Banks are a pain to deal with when transferring money, but there are reasons why laws exist.
- The industry needs to be more honest and provide greater consumer preference and optionality.
- Regulators should ensure an equal fair playing ground with access to information.
- Crypto is one of the most open and accessible markets, providing data from any exchange easily.
- Speculation drives innovation, which is necessary for breakthrough tech.
- The core elements of crypto are transparency and an equal playing ground. Regulatory measures can improve fairness and transparency.
- Token unlocks and token metrics need improvement in terms of data accessibility.
- There is a disconnect between reality and what people see on Twitter regarding alt seasons.
- 'Wait-and-see' approach towards new narratives or things popping up.
Crypto Investing Strategies
1:19:05 - 1:21:26
- It's not wise to go all in and lever up in finance.
- Wait and see what new things pop up.
- Most of the opportunity will be in on-chain stuff.
- It's okay to miss things, but pay attention and don't give up.
- Consistency, patience, and curiosity pay off.