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How to Discover Crypto's Next Narrative Using Onchain Activity | Icebergy

Tue Jun 20 2023

Crypto Investing

00:01 - 05:44

  • Icebergy, a dev angel investor focused on crypto, created a whale bot on Telegram to survive the bear market.
  • Icebergy focuses on chains and new projects since DeFi Summer happened.
  • Watching wallets and tracking bots are effective ways of monitoring on-chain activity.
  • Investing in a product after experiencing and using different chains or products is helpful.
  • Most of the useful stuff on Jane is trading tools, lending, and borrowing.
  • Solana has strong metrics but got delisted from Robinhood and other apps.
  • Crypto offers a bigger edge than traditional markets due to network and people met.
  • Crypto research can be done more efficiently through telegram chats and discord channels.
  • Outperforming ETH or Bitcoin is the main goal in investing.
  • Lending and borrowing allows for higher risk, higher reward on smaller cap potential plays while still having performance of ETH and Bitcoin as underlying portfolio.
  • Holding cash stables is important to have something on the sideline to buy a dip or when there's a peg issue.
  • Higher interest rates and less liquidity may change how you think about opportunity cost and where space can go, but it's overblown.
  • If prices aren't higher in a year or so, it's wasting time.
  • The impact of TGA on some coins is overblown.
  • Survival is key in the crypto space.
  • 30% cash, 30% stables, 20-25% Bitcoin, and 10-20% speculative plays is a good allocation strategy for survival.

DeFi and Tokens

05:17 - 11:18

  • DeFi is useful for trading on-chain and borrowing against assets that you already own.
  • DeFi tokens are hit or miss, even if they're super useful protocols.
  • Tokens need to become monopolies on-chain and dominate their segment to perform well.
  • It's hard to want to buy DeFi tokens when you can earn a high yield by staking ether.
  • Airdrop farming is profitable to do, but using new products helps you see what's actually useful.
  • Most of the stuff on Jane that's useful is just trading tools lending and borrowing.

On-Chain Activity and Narratives

10:48 - 16:59

  • Watching wallets and tagging your own wallets on Etherscan or other apps to track bots and snipers trading on Jane.
  • The whole meme coin has changed the way things have been moved.
  • Narratives are too insane, most of the time it's just price leading.
  • Enduring narratives persist as actual products that can be used.
  • Most of the useful stuff on Jane is trading tools, lending and borrowing.

Investing Strategies

16:35 - 22:51

  • Investing style has changed since the ICO craze and buying Bitcoin in early days.
  • Holding cash stables is important to have something on the sideline to buy a dip or when there's a peg issue.
  • One or two narratives can gain more interest and attention in an enduring bull market.
  • Higher interest rates and less liquidity may change how you think about opportunity cost and where space can go, but it's overblown.
  • If prices aren't higher in a year or so, it's wasting time.
  • The impact of TGA on some coins is overblown.
  • Survival is key in the crypto space.
  • 30% cash, 30% stables, 20-25% Bitcoin, and 10-20% speculative plays is a good allocation strategy for survival.

NFTs and Social Media

33:42 - 39:57

  • NFTs are not considered part of the investing portfolio bracket but rather a separate bucket for collectibles.
  • NFTs are seen as fun investments that keep one busy, but the best ones bought were cheap and did not have much value.
  • NFTs will come back, but they are currently experiencing a drought similar to ERC 20s in 2018.
  • Social media apps like Workcaster and Lens are useful, but it's difficult to get people to log in and use them.
  • The introduction of value through tokens may tamper with the genuine aspect of engaging and communicating on social media platforms.
  • Creator coins like Big Cloud's model may be interesting for some, but others may not want to have a token or see it going wrong.
  • It's important to be careful when introducing tokens as it can go very wrong and kill a platform.
  • Creating an app that automatically posts tweets on Lens by default could help insert the platform into users' flow.
  • The changing algorithm on Twitter has made engagement difficult.

Crypto Market and Regulation

51:00 - 57:30

  • DeFi summer and bull market may return after regulatory clarity
  • Design space for tokens has been hampered by regulatory uncertainty
  • Teams are hesitant to drop a token due to regulatory risk despite the market being solved
  • Tokens are necessary to coordinate activity, decentralize, and compensate people
  • Regulatory clarity will allow clear framework for designing tokens without navigating uncertainty
  • XRP case outcome is encouraging with courts interpreting it well and guidance coming out in Europe and UK
  • Capital on the sidelines due to regulatory overhang may not be as much as thought but some big VC funds were not able to allocate all their capital in crypto
  • Regulatory overhang has turned away people from thinking about crypto and NFTs but brands like LVMH and Nike are legitimizing the space at a minimum

Crypto Infrastructure and Social Media

45:04 - 51:27

  • Optimistic rollups have a big lead in terms of people building on them and users being comfortable with them.
  • Coinbase's role will be interesting to see, as they may direct people towards certain chains.
  • ZK roll-ups may be more efficient and cheaper to use, but it comes down to which chain provides a better user experience.
  • Meme coins are popular due to the liquidity and attention they receive on certain chains.
  • NFTs haven't taken off on other chains because OpenSea wasn't deployed there and that's where all the attention was.
  • The most misunderstood thing is meme coins, which have changed significantly in the last few months.
  • It's been two years since we've seen a bull market in DeFi. It remains unclear what could revitalize it.

Crypto Investing and Social Media

57:06 - 1:03:15

  • Cryptocurrency legitimizes and credentializes the industry, but there is still a lot of room to meet promises with actual product.
  • Producing high-quality games in the crypto space can take time.
  • Social media apps need a reason for users to open them once a day or once a week.
  • There may be opportunities in forgotten aspects of crypto, such as ideas from past hype cycles.
  • Revisiting past bullish ideas that didn't work could lead to killer use cases due to changes in infrastructure and environment.
  • Layer two has opened up more computational possibilities and design space, but bugs are still an issue.
  • "The best investments that he'd made was not the first iteration, but the second iteration, the second best idea." - Kobe or someone else

Crypto Market and Regulation

1:13:35 - 1:19:33

  • Banks are a pain to deal with when transferring money, but there are reasons why laws exist.
  • The industry needs to be more honest and provide greater consumer preference and optionality.
  • Regulators should ensure an equal fair playing ground with access to information.
  • Crypto is one of the most open and accessible markets, providing data from any exchange easily.
  • Speculation drives innovation, which is necessary for breakthrough tech.
  • The core elements of crypto are transparency and an equal playing ground. Regulatory measures can improve fairness and transparency.
  • Token unlocks and token metrics need improvement in terms of data accessibility.
  • There is a disconnect between reality and what people see on Twitter regarding alt seasons.
  • 'Wait-and-see' approach towards new narratives or things popping up.

Crypto Investing Strategies

1:19:05 - 1:21:26

  • It's not wise to go all in and lever up in finance.
  • Wait and see what new things pop up.
  • Most of the opportunity will be in on-chain stuff.
  • It's okay to miss things, but pay attention and don't give up.
  • Consistency, patience, and curiosity pay off.
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