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    Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

    Sir Paul McCartney

    Mon Jun 26 2023
    Paul McCartneyThe Beatles1964 Eyes of the StormBrian EpsteinDso HoffmanBeatlemaniaAmerica

    Description

    The episode features an interview with Paul McCartney about his new book '1964 Eyes of the Storm', which contains rediscovered photos taken by McCartney during the Beatlemania era. The photos capture unique moments of The Beatles' early days, their rise to fame, and their experiences in America. The interview also discusses the influence of Brian Epstein, the band's manager, and insights from famous photographer Dso Hoffman. The episode concludes with reflections on past experiences and gratitude towards Paul McCartney for his music.

    Insights

    Rediscovered photos offer a glimpse into The Beatles' early days

    The photos in Paul McCartney's book '1964 Eyes of the Storm' provide a rare and unguarded look at The Beatles during their early years, showcasing their innocence and uncertainty as they navigated their rising career.

    Brian Epstein's pivotal role in The Beatles' success

    Brian Epstein, the band's manager, played a crucial role in shaping The Beatles' image and stage presence. He also had an interesting personal life, being openly gay at a time when it was illegal.

    Insights from famous photographer Dso Hoffman

    Dso Hoffman captured unique moments of The Beatles, showcasing John Lennon's vulnerability, Ringo's natural and unguarded demeanor, and Paul McCartney's admiration for John's depth and realness.

    The Beatles' experiences in America

    The Beatles' journey to America was filled with excitement and meeting their heroes. They promoted girl groups, adjusted to different concert setups, and captured ethereal moments during their time in Miami.

    Leisure activities and moments of joy in Miami

    Despite their busy schedule, Brian Epstein made sure The Beatles had leisure activities. They enjoyed a day on a boat, wore Terry towel jackets, and experienced the joy of being in Miami.

    Reflections on past experiences and gratitude

    The episode concludes with reflections on past experiences, including catching a fish in Miami, and gratitude towards Paul McCartney for bringing joy through his music.

    Chapters

    1. Conan O'Brien interviews Paul McCartney about his new book '1964 Eyes of the Storm'
    2. Rediscovered photos capture the early days of The Beatles
    3. Brian Epstein's influence on The Beatles and their rise to fame
    4. Unique moments captured behind the scenes
    5. Insights from famous photographer Dso Hoffman
    6. The Beatles' journey to America and their experiences
    7. Capturing unique moments during their time in Miami
    8. Leisure activities and moments of joy in Miami
    9. Reflections on past experiences and gratitude
    Summary
    Transcript

    Conan O'Brien interviews Paul McCartney about his new book '1964 Eyes of the Storm'

    00:03 - 08:42

    • The book contains 275 photos that McCartney had forgotten he had taken.
    • McCartney found the photos when a photo archivist organizing an exhibition of Linda's photographs showed them to him.
    • Conan and McCartney discuss the limitations of working with film cameras in the 1960s compared to digital cameras today.
    • They talk about John Lennon's unguarded expression in one of the photos, contrasting it with posed images commonly seen of The Beatles.

    Rediscovered photos capture the early days of The Beatles

    08:13 - 15:40

    • John is unguarded in the photos, showing a side of him that is not often seen.
    • There is a sense of innocence and uncertainty in the early photos, as the Beatles didn't know what would happen with their career.
    • George was Paul's hitchhiking mate and they shared many personal moments on the road.
    • The Beatles were very young at the time, but felt like kings of the universe.
    • Ringo had a trick where he would put two cigarettes in his mouth when going on a date with a girl.
    • Brian Epstein, the Beatles' manager, was a pivotal character in their early years and had an interesting life.
    • Epstein was gay at a time when it was illegal, but he was open and had great conversations with the band.

    Brian Epstein's influence on The Beatles and their rise to fame

    15:12 - 22:16

    • Brian Epstein, the Beatles' manager, was a kind and open person who handled the sudden fame and attention well.
    • Epstein had a background in running a record store and had aspirations of becoming an actor.
    • He advised the Beatles on their stage presence, including the idea of doing a bow at the end of every show.
    • The Beatles were often part of package bills with multiple acts, unlike today's main act-focused concerts.
    • Liverpool and England had many bands during that time, so the Beatles had to work hard to stand out.
    • The post-World War II era brought about a new world of music and excitement for aspiring musicians.
    • Paul McCartney took backstage photos that captured unique moments of waiting and boredom before performances.
    • The Beatles appreciated being photographed by press photographers in America, but later grew tired of it.

    Unique moments captured behind the scenes

    21:48 - 29:14

    • Living in an attic during the height of Beatlemania
    • Finding a way to sneak out without being seen by fans
    • Using contact sheets to select and enlarge photos
    • Seeing posters of themselves in Paris
    • Working hard to prove themselves in France
    • Reflecting on their youth and appearance
    • Looking back at what it was like to be the Beatles

    Insights from famous photographer Dso Hoffman

    28:48 - 36:14

    • Famous photographer Dso Hoffman took great snaps of the guys
    • Photographer turned tables and photographed others
    • John Lennon's vulnerability and tragic upbringing
    • John's glasses were usually not allowed in photos, but Paul allowed it
    • Ringo captured naturally in an unguarded moment
    • John staying Zen amidst the craziness
    • Paul admired John's depth and realness
    • Paul underrepresented in his own photos

    The Beatles' journey to America and their experiences

    43:09 - 50:46

    • "Oh, wow, getting exciting." So yeah, we kind of half knew what to expect, but then it was a really big crowd.
    • We were just happy to be there with a big crowd of admirers and screaming girls.
    • After the performance, they did a press conference at the airport and felt confident in their success.
    • The experience of being in New York City for the first time was like being in a movie.
    • They had a great time meeting their heroes, such as Ronnie Spector of the Ronettes.
    • The Beatles promoted girl groups and played songs by them, which was unusual at the time.
    • Ringo's drum kit on The Ed Sullivan Show was on a small riser and it's amazing he didn't fall off.
    • They had to adjust to playing in the round during a concert in Washington D.C., moving their equipment around to face different sections of the audience.
    • A photo taken out the window captures an ethereal moment with a serene onlooker.

    Capturing unique moments during their time in Miami

    50:17 - 58:02

    • The photo captures a serene and cool look of a woman, which is unusual compared to typical shouting or waving photos.
    • The artist is drawn to working people's faces and finds them interesting and clever.
    • In Miami, the artist was fascinated by seeing a police officer with a gun, as in England the police don't carry guns.
    • A photo taken in Miami shows the excitement and happiness of the crowd, including a kid with books, a girl unsure of what to think, and a cop ready to blow his whistle.
    • Brian Epstein always included leisure activities for the band despite their busy schedule.

    Leisure activities and moments of joy in Miami

    57:33 - 1:04:49

    • Brian Epstein always made sure to include leisure activities during their busy schedule.
    • They hired a boat and spent a day in Miami, which made them feel good and ready for another show.
    • The photo of George on the album cover was taken in Miami, where he looked happy and relaxed.
    • They had Terry towel jackets provided by the hotel, which they wore even during rehearsals.
    • Their entourage was small compared to bands today, with only two people taking care of everything.
    • George Martin and his fiance Judy Lockhart Smith were part of their entourage and were a lovely couple.
    • George Martin was known for his proper attire, so seeing him in a bathing suit was unusual.
    • They saw an ad for Mr. Pan while on the beach in Miami, which they found amusing.
    • Mr. Pan is likely a trouser firm or clothing brand from that time period.
    • The photos captured moments of joy and happiness during their time in Miami.

    Reflections on past experiences and gratitude

    1:04:22 - 1:08:15

    • The speaker caught a fish while on a boat in Miami.
    • They quickly released the fish back into the water.
    • The speaker reflected on a photograph and how much things have changed since it was taken.
    • Being in America and seeing American life fascinated the speaker.
    • The host expresses gratitude to Paul McCartney for bringing joy through his music.
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